02-23-2016, 01:24 AM
(02-22-2016, 09:31 PM)CNS Wrote: You've got it backwards. It started with immature misogynists, then tried to cover it up by becoming a movement for ethics in gaming journalism. The whole origin of Gamergate is right there in that link I posted in my first post.
I read the article, but the thing is I don't really trust it as a source of truth on the matter because gamergate stirred up a lot of shit with Kotaku (a Gawker property) since one of the writers for Kotaku was one of the guys Quinn was accused of sleeping with, so that article seems really biased to me. Especially since that article was written during the time when gamergate was becoming a big new thing so there might have been a lot of bitterness towards it.
Though there was a part in that article that I found interesting: "Many #Gamergate participants truly believe that they are fighting an important fight against corruption in game journalism. But to an outside observer, it's bizarre that they identify the greatest threat as the small, independent, crowdfunded developers, and not the huge profitable game companies that advertise on game sites." I feel like this ties into what you said earlier about the Shadow of Mordor controversy, no? Well, there were some people who called Warner Bros. out on it, but it wound up not being that big a deal because 1) a lot of people were satisfied with the game and 2)it didn't have much to do with censorship or making a specific game politically correct, nor were there specific individuals getting hate mail and death threats over it. Stories like that are hot-button issues that have a much easier time getting swooped up by the media. There was an article about the shadow of mordor thing here:
http://garrettbrobinson.com/a-response-t...of-mordor/
I'm not defending the people that made those death threats to the women trying to make a living in the game industry, but lumping everyone that subscribes to gamergate seems like a fallacy of division to me. It's like saying that every feminist out there thirsts for men's blood and wants every woman to have a collection of chopped off dicks in a jar or something. There are definitely overzealous examples of this, but it's unfair to label the entire movement as people who think that way. Problem is that feminists and gamergaters are like sworn enemies now so the shitstorm is raining heavy between those two groups. I try to be all ears for both sides of each argument though.
For the sake of illustrating my point on how I thought gamergate came about, here's some other articles/posts, one talking about the origin of gamergate and another presenting feedback after a year of the controversy starting:
https://medium.com/@cainejw/factual-orig....jpqzijsvl
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/...in-review/